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How are Hinduism and Sikhism related, considering they both originated in Punjab, India?

Last Updated: 30.06.2025 00:25

How are Hinduism and Sikhism related, considering they both originated in Punjab, India?

We can understand that Kabir despite being in favor of formless worship was very much embedded in the Dharmik fold but always preached in the spirit of the transcendental nature of Brahman to the point that HE LOST THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN HINDU AND MUSLIM.

For him Dharma was beyond everything physical including the desire for heaven because was fully into the NIRGUN . The last verse shows that according to him the company of the enlightened Sadhus is heaven which is again a typical teaching of Sanatana Dharma.

Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

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How can people understand You, when they are entranced by Maya? ||1|| Pause ||

To him who is high-minded, these teachings will be illuminating.

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Now that my time to die has come, I have come to dwell at Magahar! ||3||

ਊਹਾਂ ਤਉ ਜਾਈਐ ਜਉ ਈਹਾਂ ਨ ਹੋਇ ॥੨॥

These morons know nothing, they wander about in ignorance,

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Sant Kabir was staunchly against cow slaughter.

Says Kabeer, the Guru and Ganaysha and Shiva all know

Where millions of Vishnus bow their heads, where millions of Brahmas are reading the Vedas,

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ਤਜੀ ਲੇ ਬਨਾਰਸ ਮਤਿ ਭਈ ਥੋਰੀ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

We have searched the turaki Dharam (Turk's religion, Islam), these teachers throw many thunderbolts,

Kabir (a weaver)

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Says Kabeer, this is what I say:

ਮਰਨੁ ਭਇਆ ਮਗਹਰ ਕੀ ਬਾਸੀ ॥੩॥

Recklessly they display boundless pride while explaining their own aims, they kill cows.

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Says Kabeer, unto whom should I tell this?

From Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 1195

There, where millions of Krishnas stand with hands folded,

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All the men and women of the world are His living forms.

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹੁ ਕੀਆ ਵਖਾਨਾ ॥

यस्य देवे परा भक्तिः यथा देवे तथा गुरौ । तस्यैते कथिता ह्यर्थाः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मनः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मन इति ।

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ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

CONCLUSION:

ਪੂਜਾ ਕਰਉ ਨ ਨਿਵਾਜ ਗੁਜਾਰਉ ॥

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I am a sacrifice to You, O my True Guru.

The Sant Sampraday of Sikh panth integrates the warrior spirit of the Nihangs and Khalsa, the service of Seva panth and the renunciation of Udasi/Nirmala saints.

ਸਗਲ ਜਨਮੁ ਸਿਵ ਪੁਰੀ ਗਵਾਇਆ ॥

Who has gotten cured from a stage 4 breast cancer? The oncologist told her she would never be cured.

You are totally pervading and permeating in all.

One Universal Creator God. By The Grace Of The True Guru:

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹ ਕਹੀਐ ਕਾਹਿ ॥

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There is a reason why I mention ROOTED and thus NOT implying that it belongs to one of the numerous sects in Sanatana Dharma like Shaivism, Vaishnavism, Shaktism, Smartism etc…

So in the same spirit Kabir finds pilgrimages to holy cities futile as his mind is fixated on Rama!

ਸਾਧਸੰਗਤਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠੈ ਆਹਿ ॥੪॥੧੦॥

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ਅਲਹ ਰਾਮ ਕੇ ਪਿੰਡੁ ਪਰਾਨ ॥੪॥

Without looking into one's heart, how can one reach paradise?

Ramanandacharya was a 14th-century Hindu Vaishnava devotional poet saint who amalgamated Advaita with Vaishnava Bhakti. He was the pioneer in validating NIRGUN and SAGUN Bhakti as parallel paths.

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I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

Kaashi and Magahar - I consider them the same.

There the streams of light flow in all directions, few are the men who can cross to that shore!

ਤਬ ਲਗੁ ਹੋਇ ਨਹੀ ਚਰਨ ਨਿਵਾਸੁ ॥੩॥

ਜਿਨਿ ਸਕਲ ਬਿਕਲ ਭ੍ਰਮ ਕਾਟੇ ਮੋਰ ॥

You have cut through all my confusion and doubt.

Ramananda accepted disciples without discriminating against anyone by gender, class or caste and they included even people from humble origins like

Kabir is the child of Allah and of Ram: He is my Guru, He is my Pir.

Shvetashvatara Upanishad (6.23)

ਬ੍ਰਹਮ is Brahm i.e the Brahman of vedanta but it gets interpreted as an all-pervading lord god.

then who is there to know what happens without?

ਸੋ ਬ੍ਰਹਮੁ ਬਤਾਇਓ ਗੁਰ ਮਨ ਹੀ ਮਾਹਿ ॥੧॥

ਏਕ ਨਿਰੰਕਾਰ ਲੇ ਰਿਦੈ ਨਮਸਕਾਰਉ ॥੩॥

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ਹਜ ਕਾਬੈ ਜਾਉ ਨ ਤੀਰਥ ਪੂਜਾ ॥

Sikhism is a NIRGUN path descending from the Sant Sampraday of Ramanandacharya and traces its ideas to VEDANTA!

Let’s see what Gurbani has about Ramanandacharya’s views.

Let's look at the views of Sant Kabir

ਕਬੀਰ ਨਿਰਗੁਣ ਨਾਮ ਨ ਰੋਸੁ ॥

NOW…

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ

We can see that great saints like Kabir and Ravidas etc… descended from the Ramananda sampradaya which is still the largest ascetic order in India.

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

Ramanandacharya’s teachings were centered on pure and personal connection with the God Rama and didn’t believe in any kind of formal ritualism. He used the common vernacular language instead of Sanskrit so that everyone could understand.

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ ॥੫॥੧੫॥

ਏਕੋ ਸੇਵੀ ਅਵਰੁ ਨ ਦੂਜਾ ॥੨॥

The views of Kabir are very much in parallel to the Advaita philosophy and it is obvious that as the disciple of Ramanandacharya he will carry forward with his chosen NIRGUN BHAKTI.

ਮਰਤੀ ਬਾਰ ਮਗਹਰਿ ਉਠਿ ਆਇਆ ॥੨॥

I serve the One Lord, and not any other. ||2||

Ravidas (a chamar shoemaker)

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I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

— Kabir, III.2, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

Ramarchan Paddati gives more info about his teachings.

Where the demi-gods and the munis are unnumbered, where millions of Saraswatis, goddess of music play the vina,

That God showed me the Guru, within my own mind. ||1||

ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਮੈ ਬਲਿਹਾਰੀ ਤੋਰ ॥

I wasted my whole life in the city of Shiva;

Hari is in the East, Allah is in the West.

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਜੀ ਘਰੁ ੧

If Ram be within the image which you find upon your pilgrimage,

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

He does not dwell at the Lord's Feet. ||3||

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 326

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

ਤੂ ਪੂਰਿ ਰਹਿਓ ਹੈ ਸਭ ਸਮਾਨ ॥

Sikhism is fundamentally rooted in BHAKTI tradition and thus ultimately in Sanatana Dharma. There is no doubt about it despite what modern McSikh acrobatics try to claim otherwise

One day, a desire welled up in my mind.

Kabeer: O worthless mortal, do not lose the Naam, the Name of the Lord.

Kabir, Ravidas and ultimately the NINE SIKH GURUS are a product of this very Sant Sampraday founded by Ramanandacharya!

Sain (a barber)

My body and breath of life belong to Allah - to Raam - the God of both. ||4||

Here ਰਾਮੈ is Rama and not just lord. Kabir died chanting the name of Rama DESPITE him not finding any result of penances done in holy cities in his previous birth. Another example to show how much Kabir valued personal devotion to Rama in his own NIRGUN style.

From where did the word Maya come? Isn’t it a typical Vedantic concept discussed profoundly in Advaita? It definitely isn’t a concept pioneered by Kabir or even his teacher Ramanandacharya! It is ultimately from Sanatana Dharma!

Actually, this part of the Ang 326 is widely used by McSikhs to show that Sikhism considers Hindu pilgrimages as useless and thus drives home the point again that the “religion” has got NOTHING to do with Hinduism.

ਅਬ ਕਹੁ ਰਾਮ ਕਵਨ ਗਤਿ ਮੋਰੀ ॥

ਕਾਸੀ ਮਗਹਰ ਸਮ ਬੀਚਾਰੀ ॥

There is my Lord self-revealed, and the scent of sandal and flowers dwells in those deeps.

ਏਕ ਦਿਵਸ ਮਨ ਭਈ ਉਮੰਗ ॥

For many years, I practiced penance and intense meditation at Kaashi;

I ground up sandalwood, along with several fragrant oils.

The Saadh Sangat, the Company of the Holy, is heaven. ||4||10||

Now tell me, Lord, what will my condition be?

Gauree, Kabeer Jee, Panch-Padas:

Wherever I go, I find water and stones.

I have taken the One Formless Lord into my heart; I humbly worship Him there. ||3||

I left Benares - I had little common sense. ||1|| Pause ||

The divergence of Kabir’s views from Vedanta is seen in the fact that he fully opposed religious symbolism of ALL KINDS and not just IDOLS.

I do not make pilgrimages to Mecca, nor do I worship at Hindu sacred shrines.

Again we see that the originator of this Sant Sampraday himself talks about Brahman even in Gurbani.

I have searched through all the Vedas and the Puraanas.

— Kabir, Ramaini 1, Translated by David Lorenzen

ਮੇਰਾ ਚਿਤੁ ਨ ਚਲੈ ਮਨੁ ਭਇਓ ਪੰਗੁ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

Bhakti movement began in South (Tamil Nadu to be precise) and slowly spread to Northern parts of India. This movement was extremely popular because of its simple fundamentals which could be understood by even commonfolk. Vaishnavism, Shaivism etc… were already connecting with commonfolk from a long time and this Bhakti movement reinforced it by making the devotee feel a personal connection with the deity.

At the time of my death, I moved to Magahar. ||2||

The Word of the Guru's Shabad eradicates the karma of millions of past actions. ||3||1||

ਘਸਿ ਚੰਦਨ ਚੋਆ ਬਹੁ ਸੁਗੰਧ ॥

ਕੈਸੇ ਬੂਝੈ ਜਬ ਮੋਹਿਆ ਹੈ ਮਾਇਆ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

ਗੁਰ ਪੀਰ ਮਿਲਿ ਖੁਦਿ ਖਸਮੁ ਪਛਾਨਾ ॥੫॥੩॥

With inadequate devotion, how can anyone swim across? ||4||

Raamaanand Jee, First House:

Now here in this verse

Where millions of Shivas are lost in contemplation, where millions of Indras dwell in the sky,

I am like a fish out of water,

ਬੇਦ ਪੁਰਾਨ ਸਭ ਦੇਖੇ ਜੋਇ ॥

ਜਿਉ ਜਲ ਛੋਡਿ ਬਾਹਰਿ ਭਇਓ ਮੀਨਾ ॥

ਕਤ ਜਾਈਐ ਰੇ ਘਰ ਲਾਗੋ ਰੰਗੁ ॥

Where should I go? My home is filled with bliss.

— Kabir, II.57, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

I would go there, only if the Lord were not here. ||2||

Sadhna (a Muslim butcher) and

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ਪੂਰਬ ਜਨਮ ਹਉ ਤਪ ਕਾ ਹੀਨਾ ॥੧॥

ਜਹਾ ਜਾਈਐ ਤਹ ਜਲ ਪਖਾਨ ॥

ਪੂਜਨ ਚਾਲੀ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਠਾਇ ॥

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

If God be within the mosque, then to whom does this world belong?

ਓਛੀ ਭਗਤਿ ਕੈਸੇ ਉਤਰਸਿ ਪਾਰੀ ॥੪॥

Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

He who has highest Bhakti of Deva (God), just like his Deva, so for his Guru (teacher),

He accepted even women (Sursuri and Padywati) as disciples. Bhagat Pipa and Dhanna were Rajput and Jat who were also his disciples.

For a superficial McSikh who is interested only in separation and not enlightenment the views of Kabir can be easily shown as a denouncement of Hindu practices.

Because in my previous life, I did not practice penance and intense meditation. ||1||

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As mentioned above Guru Arjan Dev was talking from the perspective Sant Kabir whose views we have discussed much earlier here. We know that Sant Kabir continuing in the Ramanandi Sampradaya went further away from the mainstream ritualistic Hinduism and was journeying more towards a SEAMLESS Dharma.

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Sriraag / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 92

ਬਹੁਤੁ ਬਰਸ ਤਪੁ ਕੀਆ ਕਾਸੀ ॥

Where spring, the lord of seasons reigneth, there the unstruck music sounds of itself,

ਗੁਰ ਕਾ ਸਬਦੁ ਕਾਟੈ ਕੋਟਿ ਕਰਮ ॥੩॥੧॥

Let’s look at the most used verse by McSikhs to show that Sikhs are neither Hindus nor Muslims.

ਗਉੜੀ ਕਬੀਰ ਜੀ ਪੰਚਪਦੇ ॥

Here ਨਿਰਗੁਣ is Nirgun and not just lord. This is just another example to show that Kabir himself continued in the NIRGUN BHAKTI path.

As long as the mind is filled with the desire for heaven,

I do not perform Hindu worship services, nor do I offer the Muslim prayers.

How can they kill the mother, whose milk they drink like that of a wet nurse?

ਕਹੁ ਗੁਰ ਗਜ ਸਿਵ ਸਭੁ ਕੋ ਜਾਨੈ ॥

That Kabeer died chanting the Lord's Name. ||5||15||

ਜਬ ਲਗੁ ਮਨਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠ ਕੀ ਆਸ ॥

Meeting with the Guru, my Spiritual Teacher, I realize God, my Lord and Master. ||5||3||

Look within your heart, for there you will find both Karim and Ram;

But we have actually seen how much Kabir is also rooted in the Vedantic concept of “supreme realization” but in a non-mainstream path.

I went to God's place, and worshipped Him there.

The influence of Kabir is significant on Sikhism. The following Bani from Ang 1136 is attributed to GURU ARJAN DEV but if you observe at the end you can see that he was talking in the spirit of Sant Kabir.

ੴ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ॥

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

The young and the old drink milk pudding, but these fools eat the cow's body.

My consciousness does not go out wandering. My mind has become crippled. ||1|| Pause ||

Guru Nanak (right) and Bhai Mardana (foreground) with Bhagat Kabir (left). This painting is found in the B-40 Janamsakhi, written and painted in 1733. The painting was made by Alam Chand Raj